32 "But My First Client From My Country Is My Dad" and "You See A Lot Of People Still Doing It"

Guest 1: [00:00:00] When I was a child, I was like, always. I'm playing with color, doing handmade thing. I'm from Iraq. I live in Iraq for me. My point take me to study chemistry for four year. So, here in our, like, society, like I can study the thing that I like, but because our society, like, they don't let go to go to another city and study. So my family, they didn't like me to go to another city to study the thing that I like and the thing that I like you like it was art. Anything related to art being? The last year of this university, I was designing stickers. So when I was design those sticker I was putting in my laptop or my phone. And when I go to the university, many of my friend there was asking me, where you get this sticker, like, how can I get it? At that time, I didn't know what this business mean. Or like, how can I sell something that I made from my art? Like, I don't know the feeling that I can sell something. And then I get the idea to to do an Instagram account for those.

The sticker that I'm sell. And at that time, I discovered that I can, open a shop for sticker. And from that year till now, I had this shop and the life was so challenging to me to to be who I am or to choose what I really love. And then after I graduated from chemistry, and especially like my city, they don't have any space to express art any like activity or anything because my city was, like, not the center of Iraq. It was not so moderate city. And after I graduate, my father had idea to move to another country. So we moved to Turkey. We stayed there for five year. And when I start to learn the Turkish, it became like the window to to enter there like Turkish world.

And to understand there is things that I can do for my future, to help me to become who I am. And my father. He was expecting me, expecting me to to study master in chemistry also my mother. And this idea for to study art. It was like in my head and I can't leave it or like to give up on this. Even if there is like work, I can get to do the art or anything. So suddenly my new friend, he was from another country to like and like me, he was from Iran. And the culture in Iran, it's like similar to Iraq. And he was saying to me, are you really gonna study master for chemistry? I said, no, but my family want this. He said, but my family, they don't let me to study. How to it engineering if you want to study in engineering too. And then when she came to Turkey, she applied for a university to study engineering, and she was giving me a push, like, look at me. I'm. I'm going to study something different than those four year I studied in Iran.

She helped me to to take when I, when we when we open my laptop, she was helping me. And then we find like studying graphic design. At that time I don't have any idea what graphic design is. You know, I like what graphic design. Okay, I heard about it. But what they do when I was a child in my country, I am so grateful for there is internet in my city. So when I was child I was reaching internet. I have internet, but I don't know how to use it like I really at that time, I remember that I was trying to download our Striker and Photoshop at that time when I was child, but the chance that my laptop was not support, like the memory of my laptop was no support to to download this program. So I was thinking wow, like imagine that I have program when I was child and I practiced this program and now like I know what I want, you know, I applied for it. And my family, they don't know about it. At that time, I applied for another university master in chemistry, you know, so at that time I have to accept inverter for university, and I don't know, what should I do? Like, I know, I know, I can, I can, actually, I want to study graphic design, but I don't know how I'm going to tell my family that I want this, not this. So I was saying to my friend, what should I do, blah, blah, blah. She was saying, no, just go to them and tell them that you accept only on this university they didn't accept you. And then another university and I did the same.

My friend told me and they was okay. But what you're going to do after you graduate, I said to them, I'm gonna, I'm gonna design this. They don't really understand it, but somehow they they said, okay, then support my decision. Yeah. And, I studied graphic design. I stayed, after that for five year, and then. We came back to to my country, Iraq. I'm trying to just to be present in the place that I am. Yeah. And I don't want to focus on the negative things. I didn't get that support to to study the thing that I want or even if I want to work. It's difficult here to find the work. When I came back, I start to enter the business in graphic design because when I was there I was like just studying and trying to experiment things. But when I came here in my, in my country, I get the time to just to focus on my business.

But like, because I am focusing my account only in English. So all my clients, they are from another country. But my first client from my country is my dad. He like it. Like sometime he was saying to me, and I don't know what what you are doing. What's that thing like? There is no future in that thing. But when I do the things because he. He owned a shop and now he is launching a new coffee for, for his job. So he want to do the packaging design. I did it for, for him. It was happy that that all the people, they are coming to me and they are buying this coffee. I said, yeah, thanks to me.

Naty : Hey folks, it's Naty. [00:07:07][427.6] [00:07:08] We'll be back with more right after this break. [00:07:10][1.9]

Guest 2: [00:07:17] I played really well for about 14 holes. Played like really well. And the last four holes I had an absolute like and I think pressured. It took me like I couldn't cope with that. [00:07:29][11.8]

[00:07:33] So that day one divided by two shot to go and play on tour and play on the TV. Kind of because it was so close. I think it really messed with me. I remember like buying Jonny Wilkinson. Book said he knew he was going to be okay because he was on Christmas Day practicing, and I knew Christmas there was a prep thing and I knew there would be someone else doing that. And then the reality was I wouldn't putting in 100% at the end because I just couldn't do it anymore. Originally, I fell in love with, like playing it. Everything made it because it made me, like, really happy. And then I just fell out of love. I literally fell in love with playing with ball. When I was playing full time.

I played in South Africa, Portugal, Spain, all like the country over in Ireland, America. I mean, I like it now. Looking back over it, it's been like 28 years, probably like practically forgotten though. I think the weird thing is you, England, it's such a weird environment because you are literally playing for a year of a very different life though, and one of the hosts physically started shaking. And I think that's when I knew something wasn't right. And, and I had to caddie and it was like I just didn't. I couldn't even listen to what they were saying. I was in this very different play, which I really enjoy. I'm quite happy person. I quite like people, and I didn't like being in that environment that I couldn't get out of it. Like very not get. It wasn't scary. It's just a very stressful, sweaty, shaky place that I don't think I ever want to visit again. And I think if you see and you think a lot of people still doing it and they can make big money, but once they've traveled, once they've paid the cabbie what they potentially paid the management of hotel, if they work 48 weeks of a year and they're taking home a wage that you could literally get doing any job, then you think there's a lot of work that they've got a new and that a lot of the things they potentially might miss out on.

I like people, I think being on my own for a bit with like a bit too much, I think. I think you go from a hobby and you spend all life like loving it and putting every single bit of into it, and then it breaks or just kind of tweaks that other side of it, and then it doesn't become a hobby. It's a job. And then it paying for mortgages, paying for dog and rabbit, then then you realize you can't afford another dog rabbit, so you have to get a proper job. There's the dog. So I think I like to rescue everything roughly dog. I'm rabbit probably adopted the year 6 or 7 rabbit that have ended up with house rabbits, and then I've ended up like puffing away, but that they glorified little beans. Well, I think if I didn't work, I'd probably just do that. So then I started teaching and really enjoying it, probably. And in the last like 4 or 5 years, I've actually started playing again and actually really enjoy being out there. I would play, I finished at the coach working at the moment because summer kicking in, I'd probably work maybe 40, 50 hours a week. Know me what would happen in winter?

We would kind of cut that down because of the weather, but now we've got a window where we go make a bit more consistent. I have to do emails and I'm not great at night, but I'll probably try and the night and we do online golf lessons as well. So I try and do that in the morning. And then if I'm teaching like last night about half eight and just kind of have less than working with different people, working with different groups, there's no like real similar day. That's what I like about it every day and a bit different. And you get I get feeling different. People are gonna, they'd like that and website that people can upload their videos on to kind of achieve the coach online. Then we did that work with people. So currently I'm working with a guy from Colorado, which I find it really random. So obviously I tried different liquid different. So every week I get a couple of videos and that we do the and I worked with guys from what if guy from Wiltshire who I've never met but he he sent me video. So if there's like it go have changed but but I guess have changed. and it's just worldwide now instead of us just working with people that we can see face to face. Back then it wasn't a lot of girls playing golf anyway. And what like the average age for a woman to play golf was probably 75. Everyone was retired. [00:11:55][261.7]

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